Background
Brad Gerstner is the founder and CIO of Altimeter Capital, a multi-billion dollar technology-focused investment firm. We discuss the evolution of investment opportunities in internet-enabled businesses, the rise of Chinese internet giants, and the concept of Essentialism.
Date
June 23, 2020
Episode Number
179
Tags
Venture CapitalGrowth Equity
Principles & Lessons:
- The most enduring investment gains come from qualitative insight applied to large markets, not from complex quantitative edge: Brad Gerstner emphasized that his best investments, like Google or booking.com, originated from recognizing simple truths—e.g., that search volumes and revenue per search would keep growing. Referencing Buffett, he notes that identifying “a superior product in a massive market” early is key. This requires resisting the temptation to over-model or forecast short-term metrics and instead focusing on structural shifts and strategic positioning.
- The locus of value creation has shifted from public to private markets, requiring long-duration, lifecycle-oriented capital: Altimeter’s model invests across the lifecycle of technology companies, from Series B to public markets. Gerstner argues that due to faster scale and more efficient capital use (thanks to platforms like AWS and iOS), the first $10–20B of equity value is now captured in the private markets, not post-IPO as in earlier eras. Therefore, public-only strategies miss the highest growth phase. “The first 10 or $15 billion of value creation is likely to accrue to private market participants.”
- Consumer intent has migrated from search to context-aware discovery platforms, reshaping competitive advantage: The first wave of internet investing was dominated by companies that “gamed Google,” such as Priceline. Gerstner describes the second wave as the “super app” era—TikTok, Instagram, ByteDance—where consumer intent arises in streams and is monetized via algorithms. He sees a third wave coming, driven by predictive context-aware services: “getting me the things I need before I even ask for them.” This undermines search-centric business models and privileges content platforms with deep engagement and data loops.
- Essentialism—a disciplined pursuit of fewer, higher-quality decisions—is a structural edge in long-term investing: Gerstner organizes Altimeter around essentialism, focusing on a few high-conviction positions with lifecycle ownership. He claims most investment errors stem from over-trading and the inability to stay with winners. “You only need six punches on your card,” he says, citing Buffett. This requires resisting the pressure to constantly deploy capital and instead optimizing for “return on attention” and deep understanding. It’s also a cultural guardrail: “If you have an idea of the day, you’re not a fit.”
- Price is not irrelevant, but short-term valuation signals can be dangerously misleading when analyzing long-duration compounders: While acknowledging that valuations must be compared to expected outcomes, Gerstner points out that companies like MongoDB or Facebook can look expensive in the near term but end up being cheap if you underwrite long-term earnings power. “Show me what you think this thing is going to be worth at the end of 2023.” He also notes that low interest rates structurally support higher multiples—underappreciated by investors overly anchored on historical valuation norms.
- Liquidity is both a blessing and a behavioral curse—illiquidity can protect investors from their own worst instincts: One advantage of private market investing, according to Gerstner, is that “you can’t sell.” He argues that many investors trade out of great businesses due to short-term noise and then fail to reenter. This creates massive opportunity cost. The structure of private investing protects from that, forcing patience and long-horizon thinking. “The biggest mistake we’ve made...is selling our best companies too early.”
- The cloud transformation of enterprise software remains in early innings, with most penetration driven by cloud-native startups—not incumbents: Despite over a decade of cloud adoption, Gerstner estimates we're still 10 years from 50% penetration. “The 20% penetration...mostly came from cloud-native businesses like Uber and Airbnb.” Incumbents are only beginning to migrate. This lag implies that significant value remains to be created in infrastructure, data tools, and vertical SaaS—especially for companies that enable or automate migration, integration, and intelligence.
- Platform shifts unlock new categories of winners—but identifying a valid thesis is more important than identifying the absolute winner early: Gerstner warns against premature precision when evaluating early-stage platform battles. In China, his firm bet on multiple ecommerce players, not just the eventual winner. With ride-share, the key insight wasn’t Uber vs. Lyft but that ride-sharing would become a rational, two-player market with sustainable take rates. He advocates investing against large, validated shifts, even if the hierarchy of winners isn’t yet clear: “The market was so vast, it was going to be so big...you didn’t have to make a bet on the winner.”
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