Background
Annie Duke is a former professional poker player and the author of "Thinking in Bets". We cover frameworks for decision making, the concept of 'Investing Tribes', and the psychology behind investing and decisions.
Date
March 19, 2019
Episode Number
125
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Principles & Lessons:
- Rule-setting anchored in identity creates decision-making stability by preempting error-prone in-the-moment evaluations. Annie Duke emphasizes that repeated, context-specific choices (“Do I eat the meat this time?”) introduce failure-prone variability, while identity-based rules (“I’m a vegan”) reduce noise and provide a consistent decision-making scaffold. She generalizes this into investing, suggesting that framing an identity like “I’m a long holder” eliminates discretionary reactions to volatility. This reframing protects against short-term emotional impulses and supports better long-term outcomes by turning goals into enforceable, stable self-rules: “Instead of saying, ‘My goal is to hold for the long term,’ say, ‘I’m a long holder.’”
- Values are latent, often underexamined primitives of decision-making that require explicit unpacking to guide rational choice. Annie insists that values are not monolithic—terms like “provide for my family” or “live a meaningful life” are superficially shared but materially different in how individuals operationalize them. For one person, it could mean maximizing income; for another, maximizing time. Without deliberate elicitation and clarification of values, decision-making rules remain ambiguous and fragile. Thus, values must be individualized and excavated explicitly, rather than assumed, to avoid generating decisions that look coherent on the surface but fail under introspection or stress.
- Outcome quality is a poor proxy for decision quality due to the invisible role of uncertainty and luck, and this leads to the cognitive error of resulting. Annie articulates a foundational problem: “The only way that I can figure out whether it was a good decision or not is to reconstruct all of that stuff,” which includes the probabilistic landscape prior to the outcome. However, because that reconstruction is hard or impossible, people substitute in the known outcome to assess decision quality. This substitution—resulting—means decisions are misjudged in hindsight, especially when rare bad outcomes (e.g. Pete Carroll’s intercepted pass) bias evaluations against probabilistically sound choices.
- Incorporating probabilistic language (e.g., “I’m 76% sure”) not only clarifies thinking but also invites collaborative truth-seeking rather than tribal confrontation. Annie shows how stating beliefs with precision (“I’m 54% sure I’ll have the chapter done Monday”) creates expectation alignment and conversational space for others to challenge, refine, or support those beliefs. This contrasts sharply with declarative certainty (“Obviously X is true”), which invites tribal resistance or silent disengagement. The technique is not merely epistemically honest—it’s strategically generative, as it extracts insight from others who might otherwise withhold or misframe their dissent.
- Creating pre-decision transparency and quarantining outcomes are essential to reducing hindsight bias and preserving learning fidelity. Annie stresses that in deconstructing decisions—particularly group or organizational ones—revealing only the information available up to the decision point and withholding the eventual outcome is critical. “If the verdict has already come in and I’m going to talk to somebody… I should never tell them what the verdict was.” This method protects against biasing others with retrospective knowledge and allows for higher-fidelity evaluations of the reasoning process itself, not just its result.
- Social feedback loops—especially in groups—require structural separation of perspectives to avoid contamination by dominant beliefs or outcomes. Annie warns against the contagious nature of beliefs and outcome knowledge in group settings: “They are going to start to infect each other with their beliefs.” The remedy she advocates is procedural: elicit feedback and evaluations independently before group discussion. Otherwise, consensus may form not from shared evaluation but from social dynamics, positional status, or conformity pressures—compromising the diversity of perspective that sound group decisions require.
- Progress in decision quality arises not from eliminating mistakes but from shifting the distribution and frequency of good decisions relative to one’s own baseline. Annie counters the unrealistic normative benchmark of perfection: “How do I get you to make fewer [mistakes]?” She reframes improvement as a probabilistic shift in the decision-quality distribution. Even getting someone to panic in market downturns only 80% of the time rather than 100% meaningfully compounds over time. The key is not perfection, but movement: from worse to better within one’s own feasible range.
- Ego is not the enemy of good decision-making per se, but rather a variable that must be strategically redirected toward identity-consistent goals. Annie argues that attempts to suppress ego often backfire, leading to self-congratulatory narratives about how “egoless” one is. Instead, she proposes anchoring ego to a different goal: “I want to win at accuracy.” If you define winning as updating beliefs and improving calibration, then ego can be co-opted into reinforcing those behaviors. “Now when I find out I’m wrong, I’m winning the game.” The trick is not killing ego but re-scoping it.
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