The following are key lessons from the session:
- Unless you’re 40/50 y.o, there’s no big difference in being taken seriously then vs. at age 30, in starting your own fund, ability to take risks decreases each year in your 20s
- So why not just do it now
- Requirements for first deal
- Needed a lot more capital for VC, so for $3.5m required relatively low EV/EBITDA, cash-generative, compounding machine starting early as possible, needed asset-intensive businesses to borrow against
- Interestingly, it’s so much harder to raise LP capital, than getting debt from banks, cheap forms of debt - taking 2% rates and re-investing at 30% (rather than taking equity)
- First targets were nursing homes in early days, those businesses funded further bolt-on acquisitions
- Simplicity of “I bought businesses for as little money as possible”
- Giving leadership autonomy, when business is right, the financial history is good, the price is right... check for strong management
- Value of copying
- Don’t need to be inventive, copy some of the greatest mentors e.g. Buffet, Sam Zell, Chamath
- “Literally copying them as best as we can”
- As capital increases, deal-making getting more competitive at larger sizes, but still seeing underpriced opportunities in UK M&A marketplace
- Goal to get to $1bn, sometime in 2024
- Done is much better than perfect, avoiding analysis paralysis, things get thrown at you, otherwise you’d never move forward, ultimately you do have to rely on gut
- Banking is a clear curriculum, ideal for folks requiring tick-box lifestyle
- Reading is one of the best things to takeaway
- Sameer has a journal, work-file for each year, have an excel with tab broken down by quarter with clear goal-setting - malleable
- Human capital compounding via power of reflection, despite the time it takes for it, is worth it
- Be aggressively patient, so be the quickest for deals, show up earliest, but then be patient with the process of compounding and its power
- Being contrarian and right, is the holy grail
- Parallel comparisons to Octopus, ahead of them, unique once in a lifetime opportunity to not stop
- Were compounding at 170% per annum for the last 6 years, that will drop to 20-30%
- Mentioned inability to achieve these robust returns in public markets
- Sameer has simplified investing, doesn’t have a PA, no need for large teams
- With different sectors, have general info that sector works, early-meeting with Founder/CEO and getting buy-in works, then work with DD providers (sometimes lender also require this)
- Comes down to logic and rational thinking
- Use rationality and logic first, if not sufficient then use e.g. consultants
- Make sure the Founder will run it for at least 5 years, but avoid situations where Founders/CEOs are riding off into the sunset
- With acquisitions, always has been quality over quantity, acquiring smaller businesses, but every year increasing minimum threshold, hence only about 4 acquisitions per year
- Some really strong advisors, good mid-market advisors will work their ass of to make sure you’re protected
- Have to work with lenders, need to make your vision clear to your Founders otherwise they’ll question their place in a Conglo growing so quickly
- Annual letters being issued, avoiding risk of over-scaling without clear vision
- Will be interested in the business if most of the FCF is going to shareholders, instead of needing to be reinvested back into the business (CapEx, working capital)
- Chilango was a turnaround business, isn’t a massive cash contributor to the group
- Would love to buy insurance business at some point
- So much arbitrage out there in the private markets
- Arb based on which bank is pitching, who you’re talking to
- Not everyone knows the intrinsic value of their business
- Now a well-respected mid-market operator, good relationships and have to keep these guys warm, having a strong brand is necessary
- Sameer didn’t have the full plan laid out initially, there were constant pivots
- Had to fake it till you made it, if you show up to a meeting and if you show a sign of weakness the deal falls away from you
- Only fully caught up in 2019/20
- ‘Seek discomfort, be nimble and smart, focus on learning before you earn, have faith in yourself’
- The reason we like majority ownership, is because we get full control over capital allocation
- As a minority shareholder, you’re irrelevant to that
- Same model in the $1-2m EBITDA range in Canada works well
- Not the US, too competitive
- Rejection rate is ~99.1%, most businesses are bad
- Few simple things, reject based on a knee-jerk 3x increase due to e.g. Covid (or will buy if evaluated on pre-Covid levels)
- Never built a DCF model, don’t need to, only do a Price/EBITDA
- Allows you to compare to other things you bought, other things in the sector, other recent deals
- Some back of the envelope calcs
- Want to buy this cash-flow generating asset, for as little as physically possible
- Less I pay for it, the quicker it de-leverages, and more FCF is available to me
- Some deals RDCP pulled off were at ridiculously low EV/EBITDAs, super cheap, bit of luck and circumstance
- Moving excel file called the “RDCP Master Model”
- It constantly has current EBITDA, day 1 EBITDA at acquisition, price we paid
- Then it has all the things we’re looking at, the live transactions (the soft ones that might go live)
- If a transaction is over 6x EV/EBITDA, then Sameer is not that interested, has to be cheaper
- Then appropriate management teams, reasons for sale need to be clear, then also gut feeling
- Professor - ‘running the risk of analysis paralysis with a DCF, in some cases you don’t overthink it’